Environment Transformern by Haus Rucker Co
As the initial shock of Covid-19 wears off, we're looking at a design field fundamentally changed for months, maybe years. The Studio, once the romantically charged centre of cultural production, has devolved into bedrooms, sheds, and living room corners around the world. The Crit, usually a carefully constructed group performance/social experiment is splintered into countless video calls, email chains, and shared drives. Exhibitions are cancelled. Exams will be livestreamed.\nHow we are going to navigate this crisis, how anyone is going to make work in this time, and which changes will remain when the crisis passes, are open questions at this point.
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April 28 2020, 10:09am only 80% of their salary, the portion provided by the government.
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April 28 2020, 10:08am "In the UK, the Treasury is attempting to stop museums and art galleries from paying their portion of the salaries of staff who have been furloughed under the government’s Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme. The recently announced scheme allows employers to furlough workers and submit a claim for 80% of their wages from the government, thus remaining responsible for only 20%. According to the Guardian, the Treasury has told culture officials that heritage museum staff should not pay the 20% portion of staff salaries, meaning furloughed employees at institutions such as the British Museum and the Victoria & Albert Museum could receive"
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April 25 2020, 10:30pm protest in Israel with 2m distance
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April 23 2020, 12:14pm wasn't this glaringly obvious even before COVID-19? Pretty unbelievable article...
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April 19 2020, 1:44pm indeed; sounds familiar over here
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April 19 2020, 12:04pm This story in the Sunday Times today is pretty devastating: https://archive.is/20200418182037/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-38-days-when-britain-sleepwalked-into-disaster-hq3b9tlgh
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April 19 2020, 8:22am Meanwhile these people are still pouring #millions of our #money into building projects
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April 17 2020, 7:11pm Yeah I would imagine screenshotting might be an issue, but that exists in real life drawing too. Some of these video platforms may have terms against nudity? Like you couldn't do it on Youtube or Twitch
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April 17 2020, 2:24pm I was thinking along the lines of privacy / protection etc
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April 17 2020, 2:21pm Basically what to ensure you are going to protect that person when they are in your care applies to children at school mostly but also to this
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April 17 2020, 2:20pm Safeguarding
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April 17 2020, 2:20pm Hahahaha not health and safety
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April 17 2020, 2:18pm I guess there are now more accidents at home... who covers an incident while you have an accident during "home office work hours" or during class?
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April 17 2020, 2:17pm I guess they could fall over an easel? Or decide to become a painter
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April 17 2020, 2:16pm Is that a thing that happens
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April 17 2020, 2:16pm I think the life drawing classes here are paused
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April 17 2020, 2:16pm aah dang; I was thinking if someone has an accident while attending a life drawing class
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April 17 2020, 2:13pm People taking screenshots surely? I wonder if cam people have solutions for this
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April 17 2020, 2:00pm good question; hopefully the person doesn't live alone...
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April 17 2020, 1:50pm Here’s something: what possible safeguarding issues (if any) could emerge when hosting a life drawing class over zoom?
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April 15 2020, 8:32pm only in late capitalism
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April 15 2020, 1:33pm According to the local Yale graduate union, the university has purchased 32,137 shares of Zoom for $2,187,000 in Q4 2019...
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April 2 2020, 8:17pm In terms of finance; would it be reasonable to ask for some sort of partial refund / discount for next term to reflect the change in delivery? If not how can these online courses be designed in order to cater for everyone? Not just those that find it easy to respond in “real-time”?
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April 2 2020, 8:15pm I’m not sure I agree with you fully here Max. Some of us are genuinely invested in trying to change the education system in this country and these conversations have been happening between staff and students over the duration of the course, not just in the wake of Covid 19. This change isn’t going to happen overnight and it will require a lot of action at grassroots level before anything is implemented in parliament. However; I think it will be interesting to see how the institutions respond to the sudden switch to socialism.
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April 2 2020, 5:28pm yeah what's going on here really... any thoughts : https://www.anothermag.com/art-photography/12388/art-director-zak-kyes-why-we-must-not-cancel-culture
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April 2 2020, 1:18pm We organized a zoom rave this Friday; anyone is welcome to join! I know it will be like 3am for you but maybe you are still up
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April 2 2020, 1:15pm ok great; hope that works out for you
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April 2 2020, 1:13pm They said that delaying the show (whatever form that show takes) is being put forward as an option
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April 2 2020, 1:11pm the last point seems like a productive thought.. did they say anything about postponing the show for later in the summer or fall as a possibility?
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April 2 2020, 12:56pm Me, and just came out of a meeting about our degree show, I'll put some notes here for posterity. There wasn't really anyone senior enough in the meeting to give any clear answers on what the college is thinking of doing, but the way I read it they may have backed away slightly from the idea of a Virtual Show – surely a result of the petition, devastating media coverage and threats to boycott from a significant number of students. There was talk of having student consultations until the end of the month to find out what this online thing should be, and also an acknowledgement that any online platform you could build in a couple of months would have to be quite simple (quite a contrast to their original messaging). This would be in line with what we're hearing from CSM, where they're talking about using Adobe Portfolio. There was also the idea to not frame it as a "show" at all, perhaps to reduce pressure to produce high-finish work for it and to assure people that participating wouldn't hurt their push for a physical show down the line. We stressed to them that there's solidarity between programs, and if we hear that they're cooperating with our colleagues on painting and sculpture, Viscom would be more willing to do so, too. One idea that was brought up to this end was to devolve the budget that is normally spent on a physical show (which we think runs to hundreds of thousands of pounds) to individual programs to spend as they see fit: Maybe have a book printed now, or maybe sit on it to do a group show down the line, maybe pay it out to students. This would be separate from the ongoing pushes for financial support to complete the course, and tuition refunds.
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April 2 2020, 8:20am I just feel like I'm being handed a degree for less work now, if that makes sense? And no one knows how we need to proceed to get that higher class award, staff and students.
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April 1 2020, 7:54pm the point they make here is: we still give your credits (ECTS) and you can still graduate – seems like that's what we are paying for?
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April 1 2020, 7:52pm True; I am personally a bit annoyed about the attitude of "Hey Yale, give us money", because this situation is not their fault... its a tricky one. I mean somehow institutions need to acknowledge that the education they can provide through zoom is not as nearly as satisfying as in real life
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April 1 2020, 7:31pm I've also noticed a difference in how students and tutors are reacting to this – tutors are talking much more about how this is an opportunity to question teaching models, slow down, make different work etc. I'm sure some of that is trying to keep up morale, but maybe it's also because they came up when tuition was free and so didn't experience that pressure.
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April 1 2020, 7:26pm It's quite a good response to the White Pube piece, I think. Particularly this paragraph:
For the students, who take on massive financial and emotional burdens to complete postgraduate degrees, who internalize the strains of the institution and hold themselves accountable for making their sacrifices “worth it”, their attitude is not an isolated thing. It’s the social and economic conditions that put them in that headspace which ought to be questioned.
I think if it wasn't for all the financial investment (hate to even use that phrasing) people have made, the conversation around this wouldn't be nearly as bitter. There's such a pressure to get "your money's worth" (even in normal times) that it makes any kind of radical thinking really difficult.
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April 1 2020, 2:56pm I hadn't seen that, thanks for sharing!
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April 1 2020, 2:36pm you probably read this already: https://elephant.art/how-coronavirus-ate-the-art-school-royal-college-art-rca-degree-show-education-01042020/
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April 1 2020, 7:26am All day everyday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ikW7pVa_I
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April 1 2020, 7:23am all day every day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ikW7pVa_I
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March 31 2020, 10:21pm students in the school of art around 200 Dean, head of departments and administration (faculty) of School of Art: maybe around 12 people?
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March 31 2020, 8:28pm Thanks for sharing this Julia, your demands sound very reasonable. We are currently awaiting the results of our survey which one of us will share when they come through. out of interest how many students are in the faculty?
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March 31 2020, 8:11pm Updated-statement-033120.pdf -
March 31 2020, 8:11pm Emergency Stipend Survey Summary.pdf -
March 31 2020, 8:11pm This is what we have sent out to our faculty today...
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March 31 2020, 2:45pm Thanks for the kind words Julia! That essay has been a part of my life for a long time – probably part of the reason I went into postgrad.
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March 31 2020, 2:42pm Great essay Max!! Reminded me a bit of Trevor Paglens essay: https://thenewinquiry.com/invisible-images-your-pictures-are-looking-at-you/
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March 31 2020, 2:36pm Enjoyed this from xkcd
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March 31 2020, 12:31pm thanks!
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March 31 2020, 12:29pm Oh thank you emma! Yes please do
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March 31 2020, 12:23pm That’s incredible - are we allowed to share ?
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March 31 2020, 12:23pm Bloody hell
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March 31 2020, 12:15pm My essay on Zoom is out today: http://content-free.net/articles/zoom-zoom-zoom
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March 28 2020, 6:05pm https://xenographika.edublogs.org/2020/03/26/report-on-the-state-of-grey-affairs-23-03-2020/
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March 28 2020, 3:08pm a classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M57XBRFbWfk
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March 28 2020, 3:08pm I know. I feel like the empty place is gonna be a whole new art genre
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March 28 2020, 3:06pm looks so peaceful without people
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March 27 2020, 9:42pm https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/travel/coronavirus-empty-planes.html
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March 27 2020, 3:47pm Thanks Julia
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March 27 2020, 3:47pm sounds really good thanks!!
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March 27 2020, 3:46pm Just got this Zoom invite; if that would be of interest to some of you: Dear friends, In this moment of extreme uncertainty and increasing isolation, I’ve been prototyping some tools for spending time together. Please join me for this Sunday, March 29 for Present! v.1.0.0 —a combination of a virtual lecture, talk show, and Sunday sermon, with a dose of group karaoke thrown in ! Using my forthcoming P!DF , v.6.0.0 as a score, it will focus on the idea of ‘bumpiness’ as a form of productive friction and feature a number of special guests. Feel free to drop by and pass along to other friends who might be interested. Details below: Present! v.1.0.0 by Prem Krishnamurthy Special guests: Baseera Khan, Karel Martens, Konrad Renner, Jason Dodge, Marlene McCarty, The Rodina, Wong Kit Yi, WORKac, and others Co-Hosts: @Wkshps + @____homecooking____ + @_o_r_g Sunday, 29 March 2020, 10:00–12:00 EDT (NYC) Zoom meeting*: https://zoom.us/j/907884594 Add to Google calendar
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March 27 2020, 3:13pm thank you! I will def. get back to you about that!
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March 27 2020, 3:08pm I can try to give advice etc
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March 27 2020, 3:08pm if you need any help feel free to DM me! I had to get my own insurance after my BA
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March 27 2020, 3:07pm After graduating I have to get some other insurance; no idea whats out there
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March 27 2020, 3:06pm yes... Yale has its own hospital and healthcare system here
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March 27 2020, 3:06pm who is your provider?
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March 27 2020, 3:05pm keep pushing for healthcare though !! they owe it to their students to provide them w resources during this
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March 27 2020, 3:05pm thanks for sharing!
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March 27 2020, 3:04pm take care of yourself!!!
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March 27 2020, 3:03pm makes me sad about US
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March 27 2020, 3:03pm i just read the atlantic article this morning
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March 27 2020, 2:54pm things don't look good over here... better stay in "Europe"
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March 27 2020, 2:53pm Same! yeah I think some are behind that... which would be awesome IF they would do that
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March 27 2020, 2:53pm i do not miss the american healthcare system
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March 27 2020, 2:53pm That’s something I didn’t even think about!
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March 27 2020, 2:53pm thats pure insanity if they take it away!!!!!!!!!
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March 27 2020, 2:53pm You get health inscurance through your university?
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March 27 2020, 2:52pm they better keep you insured
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March 27 2020, 2:52pm whoa
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March 27 2020, 2:52pm We are asking that our health insurance over Yale gets extended after May.. will see what they say
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March 27 2020, 2:44pm Here some pearls: "....perhaps there will be some surprise silver linings...." "Thank you for providing such a clearly composed letter that expresses your concerns to what we may only refer to as, in the words of Alain Badiou, an “event” subjecting our studio-based education to unprecedented change. I acknowledge the impact the decision to move to a remote education at this part in the semester poses to your intended hopes and aspirations in terms of projects and practice." "Inevitability, we all need to be prepared to stretch our imaginations, stay resilient, make sacrifices and continue to create and generate positivity. I will do the same."
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March 27 2020, 2:37pm yes true! "Most importantly we have to remember that we are designers"
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March 27 2020, 2:35pm the pen and paper quote!! We could collect all these "be creative" quotes (could be a fun channel for the website^^)
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March 27 2020, 2:17pm ha! here in all its glory
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March 27 2020, 2:17pm oh the famous pen and paper email
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March 27 2020, 2:17pm Might be of slight interest!
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March 27 2020, 12:10pm I’m sure they are too
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March 27 2020, 12:10pm I'm sure all these institutions are talking to each other rn
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March 27 2020, 12:07pm https://www.kqed.org/arts/13877073/art-students-demand-tuition-refunds-as-classes-go-online
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March 27 2020, 12:03pm set the channel topic: Everything posted here is public at -
March 27 2020, 10:15am I'm currently trying to trawl through our academic contract to see where the college has been failing us (fingers crossed) and eventually intend to write an email to our vice chancellor
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March 27 2020, 9:49am Hi! I'm from Camberwell College
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March 27 2020, 9:24am has joined the channel -
March 27 2020, 7:12am Or similar
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March 27 2020, 7:12am It seems like we’re all dogged by the same ideology
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March 27 2020, 7:10am I think creating something in solidarity with students from other schools would send such a powerful message.
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March 27 2020, 7:08am Ha! Kat, I think so yes!
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March 26 2020, 10:35pm which will obviously change after graduation
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March 26 2020, 10:35pm I think all of us are still here in New Haven; some are with their partners or families in NY but we are pretty much condensed still
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March 26 2020, 10:34pm ah funny
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March 26 2020, 10:30pm so seemingly similar to yales idea
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March 26 2020, 10:30pm and the map was the website
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March 26 2020, 10:29pm didn’t your CF group propose making a map of the work being shown in different places ?
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March 26 2020, 9:55pm Accommodating
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March 26 2020, 9:52pm But this combination of online and expanded physical space sounds good
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March 26 2020, 9:51pm In one space
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March 26 2020, 9:51pm If not everyone from the course is present
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March 26 2020, 9:51pm The idea of having a physical show seems impossible
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March 26 2020, 9:46pm A lot of international students here have left
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March 26 2020, 9:46pm Would the works be spread out around the world?
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March 26 2020, 9:43pm Treasure map
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March 26 2020, 9:42pm Yeah that sounds great
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March 26 2020, 9:41pm That's a cool idea
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March 26 2020, 9:41pm oo I remember when geocaching was big
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March 26 2020, 9:40pm but we are trying... the idea is to have some sort of geocaching exhibition where work is shown "in the wild" and documented over a website (the documentation as well as the location on a map).
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March 26 2020, 9:39pm so know we are thinking about doing a slightly different version for online ... not sure yet; its hard to find consensus over zoom meetings with all the 15 of us
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March 26 2020, 9:39pm Yale supports us in having the exhibition postponed for sometime later
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March 26 2020, 9:33pm How have you decided to respond?
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March 26 2020, 9:33pm What are you thinking of doing over there Julia?
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March 26 2020, 9:30pm yeah def. makes sense to have a website outside of the institution
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March 26 2020, 9:27pm A memorial
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March 26 2020, 9:22pm Less is more in this case I think
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March 26 2020, 9:21pm In a way it would be much less than what the institutions are proposing to build. No images of work or anything – maybe just a list of names and a statement?
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March 26 2020, 9:21pm Mind is racing
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March 26 2020, 9:18pm What would this even look like ?
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March 26 2020, 9:18pm This is it. Now we need to recruit
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March 26 2020, 9:11pm Okay so here's an idea: It's become pretty clear I think that people at the London art schools aren't very excited to participate in their institutions "online shows". The nature of many people's work makes it impossible to show online in any kind of satisfactory way (sculpture, painting, but also animation). It's also unclear how we would curate such a show, who would be hired to develop it, or how people would create work for it given the absence of recources. So the idea is this: We boycott our institution's online shows (even if we could theoretically adapt our work), and instead build an alternative online thing that doesn't try to replace a traditional show, doesn't have any goddamn institutional branding on it, but still commemorates the moment of us graduating into this historic crisis.
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March 26 2020, 8:52pm Outrageous
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March 26 2020, 8:52pm Meanwhile
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March 26 2020, 6:45pm Hi Emma
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March 26 2020, 5:01pm Welcome Emma! From which school are you? just so I get some context
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March 26 2020, 4:16pm Hey everyone, I invited from ual to join us — Apparently their admin dept is squeezing them in similar ways.
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March 26 2020, 11:00am Exactly
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March 26 2020, 10:59am When it's just individual course reps the college admin can divide and conquer
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March 26 2020, 10:59am Yeah true, they're really the ones to organise this effort
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March 26 2020, 10:58am UCU came out with a letter pretty quickly: https://mailchi.mp/92ac6202192c/rca-ucu-march-2020-form-letter-4357459?e=75966a891a
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March 26 2020, 10:58am Yes
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March 26 2020, 10:58am The students union?
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March 26 2020, 10:55am Unless I’m missing something
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March 26 2020, 10:55am The union has been quiet
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March 26 2020, 10:54am Agreed
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March 26 2020, 10:54am yes agreed
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March 26 2020, 10:54am They keep on with the rhetoric that they have to follow government guidelines
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March 26 2020, 10:54am It doesn't seem like smart strategy on part of the college either – all they're doing is provoking legal action and making sure none of us will ever donate or otherwise support them
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March 26 2020, 10:53am that’s why they’re pretending to be “sorry”
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March 26 2020, 10:53am rca knows everyone is unsatisfied
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March 26 2020, 10:53am i don’t think there’s much else we can do besides legal action
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March 26 2020, 10:52am I think the reps need to pile on more pressure
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March 26 2020, 10:51am When actually the decision has already been made
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March 26 2020, 10:51am there’s never been any change implemented or any real leadership
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March 26 2020, 10:51am We make the decision but make you think we are listening
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March 26 2020, 10:51am that’s their mode of operation
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March 26 2020, 10:51am well yeah
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March 26 2020, 10:51am I think it’s been happening for a while
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March 26 2020, 10:50am This is what I’ve been saying all day
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March 26 2020, 10:50am it’s all to save face
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March 26 2020, 10:50am yes
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March 26 2020, 10:50am It seems like these meetings with reps are more them relaying decisions they've already made behind closed doors than actually negotiating
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March 26 2020, 10:50am as if we’re a bunch of idiots
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March 26 2020, 10:49am and just wrote the same thing into a poorly worded email
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March 26 2020, 10:49am Right
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March 26 2020, 10:49am they quite literally ignored everything we said to them
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March 26 2020, 10:48am because they are not new options, they have been published on the intranet for nearly a week... they’ve just been formatted into an email. this is especially annoying considered we’ve had 3+ calls to discuss the considerations of the letter which was written to challenge the options offered anyways. they said they would take into account the considerations but they didn’t... at all. the options provide no further details, guidance, or information about ANY of the points raised in the letter or in the 3 calls
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March 26 2020, 10:33am Wanna elaborate?
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March 26 2020, 10:32am it’s a load of absolute shit
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March 26 2020, 10:31am What's everyone's take on the RCA options that came out yesterday?
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March 25 2020, 5:56pm "Online design education is obviously not the design education the discipline needs—it’s a temporary state, but one that should promote open source, sharing of documents and collaboration as much as possible. There is little doubt that universities will capitalise on this situation and see the financial benefits of this mode of education in the future—an excuse to roll it out in bigger scale. [...] It’s possible to think about a design education that has much less flying, less shows, less competitions, less mandatory output, more commoning, more caring. A design education that isn’t designed by the market that obliges to return things to its suggested unavoidable form."
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March 25 2020, 5:55pm Agreeing with this tweet thread: https://twitter.com/modescriticism/status/1242782490449903616
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March 25 2020, 4:58pm The Turner Prize-winning artist Mark Leckey, who has signed the petition, described the move on Instagram as a “shitty knee-jerk idea”, while the artist and RCA alumnus Tim Stone says it is “an utter disgrace”
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March 25 2020, 2:18pm Print are also coming out with some good ones
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March 25 2020, 2:17pm lmao
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March 25 2020, 2:15pm you will like this one:
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March 25 2020, 2:09pm hahahaha
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March 25 2020, 2:06pm have to give it to sculpture, their memes are quality
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March 25 2020, 1:41pm thanks for the recs !!!!!!!!
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March 24 2020, 8:28pm That sounds reasonable ...
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March 24 2020, 7:09pm I think CSM
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March 24 2020, 7:09pm Correct
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March 24 2020, 7:09pm This is an email to UAL students, correct?
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March 24 2020, 7:07pm But it’s a start
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March 24 2020, 7:06pm People are still going to loose out here
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March 24 2020, 4:30pm http://www.c-cyte.com/OccuLibrary/Texts-Online/Art_Power_Boris_Groys.pdf
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March 24 2020, 4:29pm Oh yeah Groys!
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March 24 2020, 4:28pm just read this the other day...
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March 24 2020, 4:22pm The dark object by Katrina Palmer
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March 24 2020, 4:22pm Together by Richard Sennet
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March 24 2020, 4:22pm does anyone have any reading recs? dunno about you all but i’m finding it super hard to try and produce work right i feel useless
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March 24 2020, 4:20pm Other than having the RCAs name attached to it
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March 24 2020, 4:20pm I think they should allow people to use whatever platform they're comfortable with, including written submissions
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March 24 2020, 4:20pm My question would be: what would set an online exhibition in the format they are likely to use apart from instagram?
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March 24 2020, 4:18pm ah okay I see; similar here but we will have final presentations over zoom haha
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March 24 2020, 4:08pm They've been moved online, but we're starting to say (and some of our tutors agree) that they should just give everyone a pass
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March 24 2020, 4:06pm You mean exams?
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March 24 2020, 4:05pm what about final presentations?
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March 24 2020, 4:03pm Can't wait
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March 24 2020, 4:03pm curious how RCA will respond to that after all this
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March 24 2020, 4:01pm wow thats crazy you even have to even fight for having a proper exhibition....
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March 24 2020, 4:00pm ho didn't know Leckey had signed the petition
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March 24 2020, 3:59pm oh great; already a reaction!
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March 24 2020, 3:59pm Yes!
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March 24 2020, 3:59pm I think there should be options
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March 24 2020, 3:59pm y’all guardian just did write up
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March 24 2020, 3:58pm that seems reasonable tbh
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March 24 2020, 3:58pm yeah.. we came to the consensus that either we do something unrelated to the show as a reaction of the current state of the world or we leave it with the exhibition and postpone the real show
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March 24 2020, 3:57pm Yeah I think there's agreement that an online show wouldn't be a 1:1 replacement
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March 24 2020, 3:56pm Kinda hard to gauge I think, there's defnitely a large number of people who'd rather postpone their degree and the show — but maybe we should look at those things separately
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March 24 2020, 3:56pm i think the general mood is that online show isn’t a reasonable option
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March 24 2020, 3:55pm yes and the overall mood
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March 24 2020, 3:55pm Me personally?
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March 24 2020, 3:54pm So you were thinking about an online show or you all would rather postpone?
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March 24 2020, 3:54pm sounds cool
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March 24 2020, 3:53pm probably yes; we are trying to figure that out now
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March 24 2020, 3:53pm Ah so this invitation will come out when the show would normally happen?
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March 24 2020, 3:53pm but we were so happy about our actual concept for a physical show so to put everything just online seemed half baked
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March 24 2020, 3:52pm Yeah they're not the best at communication, that's been a problem for a while
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March 24 2020, 3:52pm not ideal for sure
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March 24 2020, 3:52pm we are thinking of having some sort of speculative invitation for a future show. Yale said they try for us to have a show in summer instead or in a gallery in NY.. but not all of us will be able to help so it's also not that fair for everyone...
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March 24 2020, 3:51pm wow ok
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March 24 2020, 3:51pm What are you thinking of doing instead? Physical show at a later date?
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March 24 2020, 3:50pm Yeah they didn't really consult with anyone here before announcing it, hence the anger
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March 24 2020, 3:49pm we are having the same discussion here but we refused to do an online show
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March 24 2020, 3:36pm https://www.dezeen.com/2020/03/24/virtual-degree-show-rca-students-coronavirus/
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March 24 2020, 11:36am Yeah I agree
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March 24 2020, 11:34am good chat this morning though
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March 24 2020, 11:33am feel like we were finally listened to for once
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March 24 2020, 11:33am lol you bet they will
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March 23 2020, 5:46pm I imagine!
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March 23 2020, 5:39pm well the official line seems to be business as usual and everyone graduates on time, but I think if they stick to that people will burn the place down
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March 23 2020, 3:33pm ... at least our effort made it to Artforum already : https://www.artforum.com/news/as-curricula-moves-online-yale-art-students-demand-tuition-refund-82531
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March 23 2020, 3:11pm that's such a bummer... So how is RCA now trying to bridge the gap between unhappy students and finishing classes?
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March 23 2020, 3:11pm https://anygoodthing.com/2020/03/12/please-do-a-bad-job-of-putting-your-courses-online/
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March 23 2020, 1:47pm yeah i doubt they'll give out refunds voluntarily here – they're bad at paying people in general, even if you work for them
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March 23 2020, 1:47pm That was the Yale School of Art response. (Ad Hoc.... is that the education we signed up for?)
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March 23 2020, 1:45pm we also thought that its a tactic from the university to deny us a refund but since we learned that there will be no reimbursement some of us will def. boycott.
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March 23 2020, 1:44pm same here. We have a deaf student and he has problems singing in ASL over zoom..
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March 23 2020, 1:24pm Apparently student support here has had no time to prepare any help for those cases
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March 23 2020, 1:23pm made a good point yesterday that this transition to zoom fucks over people with different learning styles and people who rely on assistive technology
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March 23 2020, 1:22pm Yes, people are talking about a zoom boycott here also - the fear is that by attending you're gicing the college grounds to deny you a refund
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March 23 2020, 1:20pm Same; we have a whole zoom boycott movement going on but I think for some things we have to just adapt
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March 23 2020, 1:19pm From what I understand that's the idea at the moment (possibly with adjusted assessment criteria), but a good number of people are calling for deferrals
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March 23 2020, 1:18pm yeah it's gonna be rough for a while
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March 23 2020, 1:18pm How has your faculty handled the situation so far? Will you still be graduating in June?
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March 23 2020, 1:16pm yes some of us are also in touch with alumni and the school of law to see what we can do since yale was very clear that there will be no reimbursement
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March 23 2020, 1:15pm we had here three weeks of just covid19 conversations and a million zoom meetings so my brain is roasted. My only fear and I bet you are all feeling this too, is the job situation after (online) graduation... no one will hire until probably late summer
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March 23 2020, 1:14pm They also lost a lot of goodwill during the strike which is coming to haunt them now -- people are already thinking about taking legal action
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March 23 2020, 1:13pm Yeah they were a shitty organisation before this all hit, so it's no real surprise to me that they're bungling this
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March 23 2020, 1:12pm I'm sorry to hear but not surprised since living in the UK I experienced similar things from the side of the university (and it was not a hell pandemic going on!)
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March 23 2020, 1:09pm Bit late on everything, and the rca hasn't been nearly as responsive
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March 23 2020, 1:08pm from over here it seems like the UK was a bit late with the closure of universities?
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March 23 2020, 1:07pm We are almost in an everyday conversation with faculty. It seems everything will still go after schedule but we can hand in a pdf as our final thesis and postpone the actual printed book. One other thing we negotiated was that they send each one of us a small printer home so we can print out drafts and stuff